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Thread: Zongshen 190cc

  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grom Reaper View Post
    Guys, a mate and I are ordering a couple of these motors to put in a 2017 Grom (Australia, Brisbane)...

    We have a source that is overseas getting engine mounts fabricated to suit the Grom frame (possibly on mass produced if this works out well)...

    Any advise on additional parts where and where to get them would be much appreciated.

    Will keep you guys updated on progress but we're estimating a few months as the brackets will take the longest.

    List so far...

    Zongshen 190cc 2 Valve E-Starter Motor (Supplier found)
    Carburetter or alternative EFI option (Supplier found)
    Oil Cooler (Need Supplier)
    Speedometer/Cluster (Need Supplier)
    Throttle Assembly

    Like I said any help is appreciated also feel free to add anything that i may have missed that we will need to get this bad boy on the road!!!

    Cheers in advance...
    Any update on this? I am thinking of going to a BBK for the Grom. I am still considering a ZS190!
    How is the install?
    Plenty of Machines, here are a couple:

    2018 Pitster Pro LXR190F
    Honda Grom
    07 YZ250
    17 YZ250F
    83 CR125
    83 CR480
    74 TY250
    83 RM250
    17 FZ-10

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    Update on the Zongshen 190 Honda S90 build. Starts easily hot or cold on the electric but almost impossible to kick start cold. Motor is very tight with only 200km - usual vibration from a tight engine but expect this to disappear as it did with with my Z140 postie bike build. Clutch adjustment varies between hot and cold engine. Requires the cable to be loosened as the motor warms up - again this will also probably stabilise after running in. So far very happy with the performance but have not gotten anywhere near the main jet as yet.

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    Got any pictures mate? I’m keen to see how it fits size wise.
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    I will take some pictures tomorrow and attempt to post them. It actually doesn't look much different from the original with the small oil cooler and the positioning of the carb being the only give aways to someone who knows what they are looking at.

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    Tapatalk is your friend when posting pictures dude!
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    image.jpgimage.jpg

    Hopefully some pictures posted - 1969 Honda S90 with Z190 engine

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    Got onto the main jet today (Z190) and a bit disappointed. Running a 125 main and seems to be too rich. Transitions and runs cleanly right up to 3/4 throttle and then nothing much more. Misses and produces little extra. Dropped back to a 120 main but have not yet had a chance to test. Runs much better when the throttle is backed off once past 3/4. Keihin PE30 carb which is the one recommended for this engine. Any thoughts and comments would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyles View Post
    Got onto the main jet today (Z190) and a bit disappointed. Running a 125 main and seems to be too rich. Transitions and runs cleanly right up to 3/4 throttle and then nothing much more. Misses and produces little extra. Dropped back to a 120 main but have not yet had a chance to test. Runs much better when the throttle is backed off once past 3/4. Keihin PE30 carb which is the one recommended for this engine. Any thoughts and comments would be appreciated
    sure you don't mean pe28??
    never even heard of a pe30 although I dont doubt they exist...

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    Yeah PE28 mate. Typo? Now on 20 main jet and still seems too rich. Plenty of get up and go from idle to 3/4 throttle but not much after that. Bike gets to easily and cruises at 100 to 110 kph (60 - 65mph) uphill or down hill but not much left after that. My Z140 in a postie is slightly quicker in acceleration with an OKO flatslide 26 but is unable to maintain anything much over 60mph. Perhaps I expect too much?

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