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thename_joel

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hey mate, mad build you got there.

Do you know if the 190 is learners approved? dont think i can wait for 6 months for my opens aha
 

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l cant speak for other states. Here in Victoria you can ride a LAMS approved motorcycle up to 650cc.
Bikes include any jap and European 4 stroke thumper ,

power to weight on these things up to 60 hp on an 120 kg unit. The Braaap 190 with slot in there .

The only exceptions are 2 stroke road bikes , Suzuki rgv Yamaha tz Kawasaki kr
 

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My IT200 doesn't qualify for LAMS 26hp & 90kg
So i didn't think the Braaap 190 22hp and 70kg would ?
 

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isnt it anything under 250cc is allowed
with the exception of a few 250cc high performance road bikes

I'm planning on riding a postie with a 190 daytona in it on my L's
 

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The LAMS scheme is Australia wide, same in every state.

But one of the rules for LAMS bikes is-
To be a LAM the motorcycles must be in the standard form as produced by the manufacturer. Any
motorcycle modified in a way that increases the power-to-weight ratio of the motorcycle is not LAM
approved regardless of whether it appears on this list.


This is the list of LAMS approved bikes for learners

Eligible motorcycles in the category 0 – 250 mL
All models, 0 mL to 250 mL, including mopeds, are eligible for use on an RE licence and are included
within the LAM scheme. Individual makes and models are not listed.
The following 0 mL – 250 mL motorcycles, are excluded from the LAM scheme.
Suzuki RGV250
Kawasaki KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models)
Honda NSR250
Yamaha TZR250
Aprilia RS250

Conditionally registered motorcycles which have not been approved under Australian Design Rules certification
are also excluded.

Eligible motorcycles in the category 251 mL – 660 mL
Make Model
AJS Model 18S
Aprilia Sport City 300
Pegaso 650
RXV450
RXV550
SR Max 300
SXV450
SXV550
Scarabeo 300
Scarabeo 500
ASIAWING ODES MCF450
ATK 605 Dual Sports
605 Cross Country
Benelli BN600S – (must have AL in engine number)
Velvet 400
BETA RR350
RR400
RR450
RR520
RR525
BMW C600 Sport
C650 GT
F650 FunduroBMW F650CS
F650GS (under 661 mL versions only)
G450X
G650GS
G650GS Serato
R45
R50
R50S
R60
R65
R65LS
R69
R69S
Bolwell (PGO & SYM) GTS250 (Firenze)
Firenze 300
BSA B50SS Gold Star
B34 500 Gold Star
Gold Star
A10 650 Golden Flash
A10 Super Rocket
A50-500 Royal Star
A65L 650 Lightning
A65SS 650 Spitfire
A65T 650 Thunderbolt
Cagiva 410TE
500 Canyon
600 Canyon
600 River
TE450
W16 Dual Sport 600
WR360
CF Moto CF650NK (To be eligible for LAMs the 10th character of engine number must
be either A or B)
CF650TK (To be eligible for LAMs the10th character of engine number must
be either A or B)
Crossfire StradaXZ400
Derbi Mulhacen
Rambla 300Dnieper 650
Ducati 400SS Junior
Monster 400
Monster 659
DM450
DM500
500SL
600SL
600SS
600 Pantah
600M Monster
620 Multistrada Lite 24.5kW
620 Sport Lite
M 620 Lite i.e. (2005 to 2006)
Enfield/Royal Enfield Bullet Continental GT
Bullet Deluxe
Bullet Electra
Bullet Uce
Bullet 350
Bullet 500
Bullet Classic
Lightning 500
Fantic EC30
Gas Gas EC300
FS40A
FS300
FSE400
FSE450
Gilera Nexus 500
Fuoco
Harley Davidson XG500 Street
Hartford HD200s Bollini
Honda BROS 400
BROS 650
CB300FA
CB350
CB360Honda CB400
CB400N
CB400T
CB450
CB500
CB500F
CB500X
CB550
CB650
CBR300R
CBR500R
CBR500RA
CBX400F
CBX550F
CJ360T
CL350
CL450
CR500E
CR500R
CRF450X
CX500
CX500C
FT500 Ascot
GB400
GB500
GL400
GL500
NSS300 FORZA
NT650v Deauville
NT650
NV400
NX650
NX650 Dominator
NTV650 REVERE
RVF400
Steed 400
Steed 600Honda VT400C - Shadow
Silverwing
SH300i
SL350
VF400F
VT500E
VT600 Shadow
XBR500
XL350
XL350R
XL500
XL600
XL600 Transalp
XL600R
XL650v Transalp
XR350
XR350R
XR400M
XR400R
XR500
XR600
XR600R
XR650L
XR650R
Hunter Daytona 350
Spyder 350
Bobber
Husaberg FE4E8
FE5E8
FE7E8
FE350
FE390
FE400E
FE450
FE450E
FE501
FE501EHusaberg FE550
FE570
FE600
FE600E
FE650E
FS390
FS450
FS570
FS650
TE300
Husqvarna A301AA
A600AA
A601AA
FE350 Enduro
FE450 Enduro
FE501 Enduro
350TE
400TE
410TE
510TE (Models 1983 – 1990)
610TE (Models 1991 – 1999)
SM450 (2006 models and later)
SMR449
SM510R (2006 models and later)
SMR511
SM610 (2007 models and later)
SMS630 (VIN prefix must commence with ZKHA401AB)
TE630 (VIN prefix must commence with ZKHA401AA)
360WR
430WR
TE300
TE310
TE449
TE450 (2006 models and later)
TE510 (2006 models and later)
TE511
610SM (1991 – 1999)Husqvarna TE610 (2007 models and later)
TR 650 Strada (VIN prefix must commence with ZKH0H11F)
TR 650 Terra (VIN prefix must commence with ZKH0H11B or ZK0H11D)
WR300
Hyosung GV650C (Aquila Classic)
GV650L
GV650-40
GT650L
GT650RL
GT650SL
GT650-40
GT650SL-40
GT650SH-40
GT650R-40
JAWA 350 Series
Kawasaki 450LTD (EN450)
EN650B – Vulcan S
ER5
ER6-NL (2010 onwards)
GPZ500S (EX500) (1989 – 1992 only)
GPZ550 (Z550H)
GT550
KH500
KL600
KL650
KL650E
KLE500
KLE650F (To be eligible for LAMs 8th number in VIN must be “2”)
KLR600
KLR650
KLX300R
KLX450
KLX450R
KLX650
KLX650R
KZ400
KZ440Kawasaki KZ500
KZ550
MACH 1 S2
Ninja 300
Ninja 650L
Ninja 650RL (2010 Onwards)
Versys 650L (Must obtain manufacturers certification letter)
W400
W1 650
Z400
Z440A
Z440H
Z500
Z550D (GPZ550)
Z550 (GT550)
Z650
Zephyr 550 (ZR550)
ZR550A
KTM 390 DUKE
400SC
620SC
625SMC
450EXC
300EXC
300EXC-E
300EXC-R
350EXC
350 EXC-F
360EXC
380EXC
400EXC
400EXC-R
450EXC-R
500EXC
520EXC
525EXC
530EXC-R KTM 300GS
400GS
620GS
Freeride 350FR
GS300 E/GS
GS600
RC390
400 LC4
620 LC4
625 LC4
625SXC
640 Adventure (2002 models and prior)
690 Rally Replica
Kymco Bug Xciting
Venox
Like 200
Downtown 300i
People 300
Lambretta All models
Laro-Dadyw Venom NAC35
Pro Street 350
Regal 350
SPT 350
Lifan LF400
Matchless G80
MBK Yamaha XT660R
Yamaha XT660X
Moto Guzzi Falcone 500
V35
V50
V65
NTX650
Muz Baghira
Mastiff Supermotard
Skorpion
Skorpion Replica
Skorpion SportMuz Skorpion Tour
MZ ETZ250
MV Augusta 350S
Norton 50
Dominator
ES2
Panther 600
Peugeot Satelis 500
Geopolis 400
Piaggio All models
QJ P25 BJ600
Riya RY300T
Sherco Enduro 300
3.0i
4.5i
5.1i
S6-300
Suzuki AN400
AN650
AN650A
DL650AUE
DL650XAUE
DR350
DR350S
DR400
DR500
DR600
DR600R
DR650
DR-Z400
DR-Z400E
DR-Z400S
DRZ400SM
GR650
GS450
GS500
GS500ESuzuki GS500F
GS550
GSX400
GSX650FU
LS650
RE5 Rotary
RMX450
SFV650U Gladius
SV650SU
T500 Titan
XF650
SYM CITYCOM 300
TGB XMOTION 300
TM EN300
TM300
TM400
TM450
TM530E 4T
400E 4T
Triumph Bonneville 650
Speed twin
Street Triple 660
T100R Daytona 500
Thunderbird 650
Tiger 100 (under 661 mL versions only)
Trophy 500
Trophy 650
TWR25
URAL 650
Velocette VENOM
VOR 400 Enduro
450 Enduro
500 Enduro
530 Enduro
Vespa All models
Xingyue XY400GY
XY400YYamaha MT03
MT07
RD350
RD400
SR400
SR500
SRX600
SZR660
TT350
TT600
TX500
TX650
WR400F
WR426
WR426F (2002 models and later)
WR450F
XJ650
XJR400
XJ6FL (Must obtain manufacturers certification letter)
XJ6NL (Must obtain manufacturers certification letter)
XJ6SL (Must obtain manufacturers certification letter)
XP500
XS400
XS650
XT350
XT500
XT550
XT600
XT660X
XT660R
XTZ660
XT660Z Tenere
XV535
XVS400
XVS650
XVS650A
XZ550Yamaha YP400
 
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Thread brought back when l had my leaners permit. 1988 l rode a Honda xr 600 85 model rf blue seat /orange frame. identical to the 250 , bar the massive 591cc barrel . So l decided to buy some 250 tank stickers for it and wack a set of L plates. Always got pulled over on the thing and never got done for riding a bike over capacity. Thou one day as l just thought l pulled it off again the officer asked me to kick my bike over . He then replied mmm you really should check that oil pump or bottom end it sounds a bit noisy . Haaaaaa
 

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some cr500 came with adr compliance plates, usually 2000 to 02, but if you manage to find one, OMG 10k+
lol could you imagine taking a cr500 to work? heck i dont think i would rock up to work, id be hitting the track and trails lol!
:p
lmafo, the australian government is so.. um silly... lets a cr500 on the lams, but wont allow a new unrestricted wr450f... lol
but then again 2stroke vs 4stroke... screw fowling a plug in bumper to bumper traffic :p
 
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Thanks guys,

Spoke with a guy at braaap and ended up putting a deposit on a 125, but still tossing up on the 190. He said the 190 isn't ADR approved but from what i can tell, there's no 190 labeling on the thing and wondering if the cops would be able to tell much of a difference.

Clearly the sound would give it away but that could just be a mean 125 aha

How do you go with cop attention man? Been pulled up?
 

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If they check the engine number it says 190FDX directly above it.
I'm not near mine, i cant remember if it says 187cc or not on the cylinder
 

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heck, it wouldnt be hard to buy some stamps and a flapper disc to get that cc signature, and replace it with 124cc lol
but its really up to you if you want to have that type of piece of mind, but then again, you dont get to show off your big bore!! :p
 

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I'm not near mine, i cant remember if it says 187cc or not on the cylinder
Daytona Anima's dont have displacement on the barrel because the same barrel is used on the 190cc and 150cc its just the stroke is different
 

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Im not bothering with the anima till there injection package is out


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And the engine model number stamping on the case below the sprocket 190FDX, 150FDX
Unless its my spare Anima, then it says 150F but shes a 190 now ;)
cheater motor for dayz
 

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