Yeah the drz 400 looks good performance wise - but I just don't like the concept of a liquid cooled bike - I'm just getting old & grumpy I guess! True the DR650 is getting a little long in the tooth now, having been in production so long - but there can often be benefits to buying a bike that's been on the market a while. For a start the DR650 is cast iron reliability wise and there's plenty of aftermarket stuff available to improve it's performance. Stiffer springs, upgraded muffler and a bit of tinkering with the carbie jetting, will improve the performance of the DR650 out of sight. True it's never going to win you any Motos - but both on and off road performance is adequate and I'd take it as an on/off road adventure bike any day. It's also easy to maintain and repair and the cost of both the new bike and spares is competitive (for a Jap bike anyway) The new on/off road adventure bike offerings from BMW, Kawasaki and the like look pretty flash - but seem configured kind of top heavy to me. My personal opinion is that they may present too much of a compromise off road for my tastes. I recon a DR650 plus a few after market suspension upgrades still offers one of the best value on/off road bike packages available and judging by sales, a lot of old buggers like me agree. Each to his own of course - and things probably look a lot different from a younger perspective - but that's just the natural way of the world!