mjc85 said:Orion's are shit, i have one and regret buying it. When stuff goes wrong you will either get charged a shit load at a bike shop or spend hours and hours trying to fix it yourself.
If you take this into consideration you would be better off buying a bike that is twice the value and has a warranty for 2 reasons
1. You get a better quality bike OVERALL
2. Shit doesn't break like on orions so it doesn't end up costing you what the bike is worth to fix all the shit that breaks.
Trust me on this i know from experience, i have an orion that owes me about $1000 (it cost me $800) and i need a new engine now.
Obviously the people who claim that orions are good don't ride there bikes enough or hard enough because they do not stand up to the punishment like a good brand chinese bike or japanese bike.
Cruzen said:and u said.. twice the value for $ i dont think u will get a brand new phooly tabooli sik real thumpstar for 1400.. more like 4000 3/4 times the value of a orion.
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