Best frame for motarding?

[Mr Tarded Mo]

Trying to find best frame for motarding. Current frame started to flex too much. Planning to buy alu frame, stiff as possible. Sometthing litlebit shorter than midsize. Almost everything should be adjustable.

What are your thoughts about frames? In my list Red Baron G3 Aluminun Factory Frame looks exactly what I´m trying to find.

current frame:
http://images.24mx.se/products/large/095431-Pitpro-comp-2010.jpg

Planning to:
50cc G3 Aluminun Factory Frame - crf50 - ttr50 - xr50 - klx110 - drz110 - mini bikes - pit bike - big bikes - parts - products - racing parts - racing products - performance products - 50 - 88 - 110 124 - 134 - cc - Red Baron Racing

Or maybe this:
M-150 MOTARD -

 

[grnman]

I think that M-150 frame looks strong. i found that my Motovert Pro 2007 frame is super strong. if you can flex this the jumps on you motard track are to big.

 

[wogtaz ryder]

The red barron would be alot lighter and smaller frame .

Are you looking to swap most items over from your bike?

Or do a hole new build.

 

[pbk]

there is a crf70 version of that red barron frame

110cc CRF 70 G3 Factory Frame - crf50 - ttr50 - xr50 - klx110 - drz110 - mini bikes - pit bike - big bikes - parts - products - racing parts - racing products - performance products - 50 - 88 - 110 124 - 134 - cc - Red Baron Racing

 

[Hillz]

this frame is the goods

 

[grnman]

thats a W.C Street Killa

 

[Mr Tarded Mo]

Now it looks I swap most of my old parts to new frame. Othervice winter is long and cold here and could cause some radical ideas. So everything is possible... :afro:

Sadly we don´t have jumps on the tracks at all! I believe my frame is exhausted cos of crawling and too much power for the frame. If I crab from my rear tire and push&pull it, whole frame twist. Engine moves vertically about 2-3 cm. If I compare my frame to new same one, it´s like gum.

Have noticed that smaller frame is faster on the smoto track. Midsize is better to ride cross.

grnman: Your frame looks pretty stiff. What´s your bikes weight? Mine´s apprx 68 kg dry. Friends insane Five-O 203cc yx 60 kg!!! So I´m trying to slim down littlebit.


Ps. Have anybody ever heard about carbonfiber pitbike frames and wheels?

 

[pbk]

Now it looks I swap most of my old parts to new frame. Othervice winter is long and cold here and could cause some radical ideas. So everything is possible... :afro:

Sadly we don´t have jumps on the tracks at all! I believe my frame is exhausted cos of crawling and too much power for the frame. If I crab from my rear tire and push&pull it, whole frame twist. Engine moves vertically about 2-3 cm. If I compare my frame to new same one, it´s like gum.

Have noticed that smaller frame is faster on the smoto track. Midsize is better to ride cross.

grnman: Your frame looks pretty stiff. What´s your bikes weight? Mine´s apprx 68 kg dry. Friends insane Five-O 203cc yx 60 kg!!! So I´m trying to slim down littlebit.


Ps. Have anybody ever heard about carbonfiber pitbike frames and wheels?

check out some of these billet wheels

http://www.miniriders.com.au/mini-chat/30279-billet-wheel-porn.html

 

[grnman]

well that is the down side with my frame. it is heavy.

 

[themountain]

Bucci...they are lightweight and superstrong...but not exactly a cheap catch

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[Mr Tarded Mo]

Bucci frames are cromoly and looks pretty much same like Stomp and my old frame. I doubt these are stiffer, or am I wrong?

 

[themountain]

Bucci frames are cromoly and looks pretty much same like Stomp and my old frame. I doubt these are stiffer, or am I wrong?

There is a galaxy difference , between a stomp(Dreambikes) and this frame....:damnmate:

 

[Mr Tarded Mo]

There is a galaxy difference , between a stomp(Dreambikes) and this frame....:damnmate:

Okay! What about weight politics? I did´nt see price for the frame only, do you know this?

 

[themountain]

no..send them a email

 

[Cactus Jack]

A Bucci Motard bike weighs ~ Peso a secco: 68 Kg ...

Their frames are the best engineered hands down ...

 

[grnman]

Yo yo Mr Tarded Mo....... Does anyone where you ride, ride Japanese 2 - Strokes like the KTM 85 and things. If so how do they fair up against the 4 bangers. are the frames better? are the motors better?

 

[Cactus Jack]

I doubt it ... It wouldn't be fair to allow vertical expansion chamber equipped 2 strokes or even vertical 4 strokes to race against horizontal 4 strokes (XR75's flog SL70's even though they're the same 72 cc's) ...

Now look at modding horizontal 2 strokes such as the PW80 motor ... most people wouldn't even consider it for obvious reasons ...

 

[teapot]

i know the G2 frame would only accept 10" rear wheel, might want to check the G3 before you splash the cash!?

 

[grnman]

Yeah but my Daytona motor is pushing out the same power as a CRF150r vertical, water cooled, over square bore motor.

 

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah a stock CRF150R ... The horizontal motors lose out on their tranny plus windage / oil drag in the bottom end ...

If they started allowing CRF150R engined pitbikes it'd be bye bye chinese motors once people started stroking them etc etc ...

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