jacko
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ok thanks for joining up please post the warenty sheet on here mayb it could clear a few things up
The Three Amigos / Kamikazee Disposal's Pit Bikes - Adelaide SA
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Hmm, Pancho + 3 Amigos, I honestly don't mind you lot. I can understand where your coming from, if I started a business, I'd obviously want my stuff to sell to keep it going. A few people have a had a few bad experiences with you, I don't know personally about them but from my point of you, you're not that bad.. I'd still never buy a bike from you
The warranty document. Nice, light reading.
1. In these conditions:
(1) ‘Seller’ means Three Amigos Outdoor Gurus Pty Ltd (ACN 119 437 124) of 50 Grand Junction Road, Rosewater, SA, 5013 which is the Seller of the Goods.
(2) ‘Buyer’ means the purchaser of the Goods specified overleaf.
(3) ‘Goods’ means the products and, if any, services specified overleaf.
(4) Nothing in these conditions shall be read or applied so as to exclude, restrict or modify or have the effect of excluding, restricting or modifying any condition, warranty, guarantee, right or remedy implied by law (including the Trade Practices Act 1974) and which by law cannot be excluded, restricted or modified.
General
2. These conditions (which shall only be waived in writing signed by the Seller) shall prevail over all conditions of the Buyer’s order to the extent of any inconsistency.
Terms of sale
3. The Goods and all other products sold by Seller are sold on these terms and conditions.
Limitation of liability consumer sale
4. Subject to clause 7 below and to the extent permitted by the Trade Practices Act and relevant State Legislation, the sole obligation of the Seller under this Agreement is to use its best endeavors to provide the Goods or to repair the Goods or repair or replace (at the Seller’s discretion) any part of the Goods which is found to be defective during the period of guarantee set out in clause 7 and in no event shall the Seller be liable for any other claims or damages including, but not limited to:
4 (1) claims for faulty design, negligent or misleading advice, damages arising from loss or use of the Goods, and any indirect, special or consequential damages or injury to any person, corporation or other entity;
4 (2) if the Goods supplied pursuant to this Purchase Order are supplied to the Buyer as a “consumer” of Goods or services within the meaning of that term in the Trade Practices Act 1974 as amended or similar State Legislation the consumer will have the benefit of certain non-excludable rights and remedies in respect of the Goods or services and nothing in these terms and conditions excludes or restricts or modifies any condition, warranty, right of remedy which pursuant to the Trade Practices Act or similar Legislation is so conferred. However, if the product is a product not ordinarily required for personal, domestic or household use or consumption pursuant to Section 68A of the Trade Practices Act and similar provisions of relevant State Legislation, the Seller limits its liability to payment of an amount equal to the lowest of:
(a) the cost of replacing the Goods;
(b) the cost of repair of the Goods;
(c) the cost of having the Goods repaired or replaced.
4 (3) subject to Clause 4(2)(c) above the Seller is not liable for default or failure in performance of its obligations pursuant to this Agreement resulting directly or indirectly from acts of God, civil or military authority, acts of public enemy, war, accidents, fires, explosions, earth quakes, floods, the elements, strikes, shortage of suitable parts, or any other cause beyond the reasonable control of the Seller including the misuse or misapplication of the Goods by the Buyer;
4 (4) subject to clause 4(2)(c) above, the Seller is not responsible for any loss caused by any error or defect in the Goods or errors or faults caused by the misuse, reckless or negligent use of the Goods or use of the Goods in a manner contrary to their common or intended use having regard to the specifications set out in clause 5 below.
Specifications, etc.
5. The descriptions, illustrations and performances contained in catalogues, price lists and other advertising matter do not form part of the contract of sale of the Goods or of the description applied to the Goods.
Performance
6. Any performance data or information given by the Seller in respect of the Goods are estimates only. The Seller is under no liability for damages for failure of the Goods to attain such figures unless specifically guaranteed in writing. Any such written guarantees are subject to the recognized tolerances applicable to the Goods.
Guarantee
7. (1) The Seller’s liability for Goods manufactured by it is limited to making good any defects by repairing the defects or at the Seller’s option by replacement, within a period not exceeding six (6) calendar months after the Goods have been dispatched so long as:
(a) defects have arisen solely from faulty materials or workmanship;
(b) the Goods have not received maltreatment, inattention or interference;
(c) accessories of any kind used by the Buyer are manufactured by or approved by Seller;
(d) the seals of any kind on the Goods remain unbroken; and
(e) the defective parts are promptly returned free of cost to the Seller.
(2) If the Goods are not manufactured by the Seller the guarantee of the manufacturer of those Goods is accepted by the Buyer and is the only guarantee given to the Buyer in respect of the Goods. The Seller agrees to assign to the Buyer on request made by the Buyer the benefit of any warranty or entitlement to the Goods that the manufacturer has granted to the Seller under any contract or by implication or operation of law to the extent that the benefit of any warranty or entitlement is assignable.
(3) The Seller is not liable for and the Buyer releases the Seller from any claims in respect of faulty or defective design of any Goods supplied unless such design has been wholly prepared by the Seller and the responsibility for any claim has been specifically accepted by the Seller in writing. In any event the Seller’s liability under this paragraph is limited strictly to the replacement of defective parts in accordance with Clause 4 of these conditions.
(4) Except as provided in these conditions, all express and implied warranties, guarantees and conditions under statute or general law as to merchantability, description, quality, suitability or fitness of the Goods for any purpose or as to design, assembly, installation, materials or workmanship or otherwise are expressly excluded. The Seller is not liable for physical or financial injury, loss or damage or for consequential loss or damage of any kind arising out of the supply, layout, assembly, installation or operation of the Goods by the Buyer or arising out of the Buyer’s negligence or in any way whatsoever.
(5) the Buyer acknowledges and agrees that prior to taking delivery of the Goods it has had an opportunity to inspect the Goods and is satisfied that they are fit for the purpose or purposes for which Goods of that kind are commonly bought.
Prices
8. (1) Unless otherwise stated all prices quoted by the Seller are net, inclusive of Goods and Services Tax (GST).
(2) Prices quoted are those ruling at the date of issue of quotation and are based on rates of freight, insurance, customs duties, exchange, shipping expenses, sorting and stacking charges, cartage, rate of weights, cost of materials and other charges affecting the cost of production ruling on the date is made.
(3) If the Seller makes any alterations to the price of the Goods or to any of their inputs either before acceptance of or during the currency of the contract, these alterations are for the Buyer’s account.
Payment
9. The purchase price in relation to Goods is payable net and payment of the price of the Goods must be made by the Buyer on delivery of the Goods unless other terms of payment are expressly stated in these conditions in writing.
Rights in relation to Goods
10. The Seller reserves the following rights in relation to the Goods until all accounts owed by the Buyer to the Seller are fully paid:
(1) ownership of the Goods;
(2) to enter the Buyer’s premises (or the premises of any associated company or agent where the Goods are located) without liability for trespass or any resulting damage and retake possession of the Goods; and
(3) to keep or resell any Goods repossessed pursuant to (2) above.
If the Goods are resold, or products manufactured using the Goods are sold, by the Buyer, the Buyer shall hold such part of the proceeds of any such sale as represents the invoice price of the Goods sold or used in the manufacture of the Goods sold in a separate identifiable account as the beneficial property of the Seller and shall pay such amount to the Seller upon request. Notwithstanding the provisions above the Seller shall be entitled to maintain an action against the Buyer for the purchase price and the risk of the Goods shall pass to the Buyer upon delivery.
Returned Goods
11. (1) The Seller is not be under any duty to accept Goods returned by the Buyer and will do so only on terms to be agreed in writing in each individual case.
(2) If the Seller agrees to accept returned Goods from the Buyer under para (1) of this clause, the Buyer must return the Goods to the Seller at the Seller’s place of business referred to at the head of these conditions.
Goods sold
12. All Goods to be supplied by the Seller to the Buyer are as described on the purchase order agreed by the Seller and the Buyer and the description on such purchase order modified as so agreed prevails over all other descriptions including any specification or enquiry of the Buyer.
Cancellation
13. No order may be cancelled except with consent in writing and on terms which will indemnify the Seller against all losses.
Place of contract
14. (1) The contract for sale of the Goods is made in the state or territory of Australia from which this document is issued.
(2) The parties submit all disputes arising between them to the courts of such state or territory and any court competent to hear appeals from those courts of first instance.
Purchase Order
Interpretation1. In these conditions:
(1) ‘Seller’ means Three Amigos Outdoor Gurus Pty Ltd (ACN 119 437 124) of 50 Grand Junction Road, Rosewater, SA, 5013 which is the Seller of the Goods.
(2) ‘Buyer’ means the purchaser of the Goods specified overleaf.
(3) ‘Goods’ means the products and, if any, services specified overleaf.
(4) Nothing in these conditions shall be read or applied so as to exclude, restrict or modify or have the effect of excluding, restricting or modifying any condition, warranty, guarantee, right or remedy implied by law (including the Trade Practices Act 1974) and which by law cannot be excluded, restricted or modified.
General
2. These conditions (which shall only be waived in writing signed by the Seller) shall prevail over all conditions of the Buyer’s order to the extent of any inconsistency.
Terms of sale
3. The Goods and all other products sold by Seller are sold on these terms and conditions.
Limitation of liability consumer sale
4. Subject to clause 7 below and to the extent permitted by the Trade Practices Act and relevant State Legislation, the sole obligation of the Seller under this Agreement is to use its best endeavors to provide the Goods or to repair the Goods or repair or replace (at the Seller’s discretion) any part of the Goods which is found to be defective during the period of guarantee set out in clause 7 and in no event shall the Seller be liable for any other claims or damages including, but not limited to:
4 (1) claims for faulty design, negligent or misleading advice, damages arising from loss or use of the Goods, and any indirect, special or consequential damages or injury to any person, corporation or other entity;
4 (2) if the Goods supplied pursuant to this Purchase Order are supplied to the Buyer as a “consumer” of Goods or services within the meaning of that term in the Trade Practices Act 1974 as amended or similar State Legislation the consumer will have the benefit of certain non-excludable rights and remedies in respect of the Goods or services and nothing in these terms and conditions excludes or restricts or modifies any condition, warranty, right of remedy which pursuant to the Trade Practices Act or similar Legislation is so conferred. However, if the product is a product not ordinarily required for personal, domestic or household use or consumption pursuant to Section 68A of the Trade Practices Act and similar provisions of relevant State Legislation, the Seller limits its liability to payment of an amount equal to the lowest of:
(a) the cost of replacing the Goods;
(b) the cost of repair of the Goods;
(c) the cost of having the Goods repaired or replaced.
4 (3) subject to Clause 4(2)(c) above the Seller is not liable for default or failure in performance of its obligations pursuant to this Agreement resulting directly or indirectly from acts of God, civil or military authority, acts of public enemy, war, accidents, fires, explosions, earth quakes, floods, the elements, strikes, shortage of suitable parts, or any other cause beyond the reasonable control of the Seller including the misuse or misapplication of the Goods by the Buyer;
4 (4) subject to clause 4(2)(c) above, the Seller is not responsible for any loss caused by any error or defect in the Goods or errors or faults caused by the misuse, reckless or negligent use of the Goods or use of the Goods in a manner contrary to their common or intended use having regard to the specifications set out in clause 5 below.
Specifications, etc.
5. The descriptions, illustrations and performances contained in catalogues, price lists and other advertising matter do not form part of the contract of sale of the Goods or of the description applied to the Goods.
Performance
6. Any performance data or information given by the Seller in respect of the Goods are estimates only. The Seller is under no liability for damages for failure of the Goods to attain such figures unless specifically guaranteed in writing. Any such written guarantees are subject to the recognized tolerances applicable to the Goods.
Guarantee
7. (1) The Seller’s liability for Goods manufactured by it is limited to making good any defects by repairing the defects or at the Seller’s option by replacement, within a period not exceeding six (6) calendar months after the Goods have been dispatched so long as:
(a) defects have arisen solely from faulty materials or workmanship;
(b) the Goods have not received maltreatment, inattention or interference;
(c) accessories of any kind used by the Buyer are manufactured by or approved by Seller;
(d) the seals of any kind on the Goods remain unbroken; and
(e) the defective parts are promptly returned free of cost to the Seller.
(2) If the Goods are not manufactured by the Seller the guarantee of the manufacturer of those Goods is accepted by the Buyer and is the only guarantee given to the Buyer in respect of the Goods. The Seller agrees to assign to the Buyer on request made by the Buyer the benefit of any warranty or entitlement to the Goods that the manufacturer has granted to the Seller under any contract or by implication or operation of law to the extent that the benefit of any warranty or entitlement is assignable.
(3) The Seller is not liable for and the Buyer releases the Seller from any claims in respect of faulty or defective design of any Goods supplied unless such design has been wholly prepared by the Seller and the responsibility for any claim has been specifically accepted by the Seller in writing. In any event the Seller’s liability under this paragraph is limited strictly to the replacement of defective parts in accordance with Clause 4 of these conditions.
(4) Except as provided in these conditions, all express and implied warranties, guarantees and conditions under statute or general law as to merchantability, description, quality, suitability or fitness of the Goods for any purpose or as to design, assembly, installation, materials or workmanship or otherwise are expressly excluded. The Seller is not liable for physical or financial injury, loss or damage or for consequential loss or damage of any kind arising out of the supply, layout, assembly, installation or operation of the Goods by the Buyer or arising out of the Buyer’s negligence or in any way whatsoever.
(5) the Buyer acknowledges and agrees that prior to taking delivery of the Goods it has had an opportunity to inspect the Goods and is satisfied that they are fit for the purpose or purposes for which Goods of that kind are commonly bought.
Prices
8. (1) Unless otherwise stated all prices quoted by the Seller are net, inclusive of Goods and Services Tax (GST).
(2) Prices quoted are those ruling at the date of issue of quotation and are based on rates of freight, insurance, customs duties, exchange, shipping expenses, sorting and stacking charges, cartage, rate of weights, cost of materials and other charges affecting the cost of production ruling on the date is made.
(3) If the Seller makes any alterations to the price of the Goods or to any of their inputs either before acceptance of or during the currency of the contract, these alterations are for the Buyer’s account.
Payment
9. The purchase price in relation to Goods is payable net and payment of the price of the Goods must be made by the Buyer on delivery of the Goods unless other terms of payment are expressly stated in these conditions in writing.
Rights in relation to Goods
10. The Seller reserves the following rights in relation to the Goods until all accounts owed by the Buyer to the Seller are fully paid:
(1) ownership of the Goods;
(2) to enter the Buyer’s premises (or the premises of any associated company or agent where the Goods are located) without liability for trespass or any resulting damage and retake possession of the Goods; and
(3) to keep or resell any Goods repossessed pursuant to (2) above.
If the Goods are resold, or products manufactured using the Goods are sold, by the Buyer, the Buyer shall hold such part of the proceeds of any such sale as represents the invoice price of the Goods sold or used in the manufacture of the Goods sold in a separate identifiable account as the beneficial property of the Seller and shall pay such amount to the Seller upon request. Notwithstanding the provisions above the Seller shall be entitled to maintain an action against the Buyer for the purchase price and the risk of the Goods shall pass to the Buyer upon delivery.
Returned Goods
11. (1) The Seller is not be under any duty to accept Goods returned by the Buyer and will do so only on terms to be agreed in writing in each individual case.
(2) If the Seller agrees to accept returned Goods from the Buyer under para (1) of this clause, the Buyer must return the Goods to the Seller at the Seller’s place of business referred to at the head of these conditions.
Goods sold
12. All Goods to be supplied by the Seller to the Buyer are as described on the purchase order agreed by the Seller and the Buyer and the description on such purchase order modified as so agreed prevails over all other descriptions including any specification or enquiry of the Buyer.
Cancellation
13. No order may be cancelled except with consent in writing and on terms which will indemnify the Seller against all losses.
Place of contract
14. (1) The contract for sale of the Goods is made in the state or territory of Australia from which this document is issued.
(2) The parties submit all disputes arising between them to the courts of such state or territory and any court competent to hear appeals from those courts of first instance.
So if you stock so much, why don't you have something menial, like oh say a shocker?
Because the majority of parts sales go to people that bought a bike elsewhere. The case in question was one of those P.O.S Atomik 27's. So not only do we service our own customers needs but also that of all the other bike shops out there that don't make the effort to import parts. Yet we're the bad guys...
They have various public warnings out about thier warranty, look at this;
"YAMAHA WARNS OF CHINESE IMPORTS
Following a warning issued by the South Australian government about a SA-based importer of Chinese mini bikes, ATVs and buggies, Yamaha Australia has called for consumers to consider the purchase of such imports with extreme caution.
According to a media release from the Government of South Australia's Office of Consumer and Business Affairs, the Three Amigos Outdoor Gurus state on their invoices "illegal warranty conditions" such as: "All repairs are the responsibility of the owner", and "I bought this as a non working product. It is faulty and incomplete. I will perform or pay for all labour, skills, diagnostics and items necessary to use this product".
South Australia's Commissioner for Consumer Affairs, Mark Bodycoat, said the conditions failed to comply with legislation regarding warranty. "Three Amigos has ignored its legal obligations and appears to be continuing with unfair trading practices, which is why I am now issuing a public warning to consumers not to deal with the company," he said.
In advertising a model known as a PY50, the firm's website states: "Just like the Yamaha, only affordable!" – a statement that has angered Yamaha. According to a press release from Yamaha titled "Beware Chinese Bikes and Importers", when it comes to some of these imports, the maxim of 'buyer beware' should be kept well and truly in mind.
"Yamaha Motor Australia's national dealer network has the ability to service Yamaha's entire product range and supply parts for any model without delay," the release states. "All Yamaha motorcycles and ATVs are sold with a meaningful warranty that is backed up when necessary," it continues."
Got that from: YAMAHA WARNS OF CHINESE IMPORTS Review - Insure My Ride
Theres also this: Beware the 3 Amigos - South Australia - Australian News Message Boards
Ive had too many bad experiences at that place to say anything good about them.
For expample, one time I went there to get a 328 sprocket, I went and asked for a 328 39tooth sprocket and the guy sells me a 320 41 tooth!! Just lucky I tried fitting the chain on it when I was in the car and went back for a refund.
Its like this everytime I go there, theres usually ZERO customer service aswell.
I know they have the smallest range of parts ive seen in any shop aswell.
Dont believe that they didnt have the part you wanted at SAFB aswell, they have nearly every part availible and some other parts that you wont find in any other shop.
Just dont see any reason why I would buy from the 3 amigos when I could go to any other shop and get: a better range of parts, better price, better customer service.
3 amigos have just been around longer than alot of other shops so more people know about them.
"YAMAHA WARNS OF CHINESE IMPORTS
Following a warning issued by the South Australian government about a SA-based importer of Chinese mini bikes, ATVs and buggies, Yamaha Australia has called for consumers to consider the purchase of such imports with extreme caution.
According to a media release from the Government of South Australia's Office of Consumer and Business Affairs, the Three Amigos Outdoor Gurus state on their invoices "illegal warranty conditions" such as: "All repairs are the responsibility of the owner", and "I bought this as a non working product. It is faulty and incomplete. I will perform or pay for all labour, skills, diagnostics and items necessary to use this product".
South Australia's Commissioner for Consumer Affairs, Mark Bodycoat, said the conditions failed to comply with legislation regarding warranty. "Three Amigos has ignored its legal obligations and appears to be continuing with unfair trading practices, which is why I am now issuing a public warning to consumers not to deal with the company," he said.
In advertising a model known as a PY50, the firm's website states: "Just like the Yamaha, only affordable!" – a statement that has angered Yamaha. According to a press release from Yamaha titled "Beware Chinese Bikes and Importers", when it comes to some of these imports, the maxim of 'buyer beware' should be kept well and truly in mind.
"Yamaha Motor Australia's national dealer network has the ability to service Yamaha's entire product range and supply parts for any model without delay," the release states. "All Yamaha motorcycles and ATVs are sold with a meaningful warranty that is backed up when necessary," it continues."
Got that from: YAMAHA WARNS OF CHINESE IMPORTS Review - Insure My Ride
Theres also this: Beware the 3 Amigos - South Australia - Australian News Message Boards
Ive had too many bad experiences at that place to say anything good about them.
For expample, one time I went there to get a 328 sprocket, I went and asked for a 328 39tooth sprocket and the guy sells me a 320 41 tooth!! Just lucky I tried fitting the chain on it when I was in the car and went back for a refund.
Its like this everytime I go there, theres usually ZERO customer service aswell.
I know they have the smallest range of parts ive seen in any shop aswell.
Dont believe that they didnt have the part you wanted at SAFB aswell, they have nearly every part availible and some other parts that you wont find in any other shop.
Just dont see any reason why I would buy from the 3 amigos when I could go to any other shop and get: a better range of parts, better price, better customer service.
3 amigos have just been around longer than alot of other shops so more people know about them.
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You are kidding yourself. Either way, I could care less, I can live without your business.
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Hmmmm Seems like the 3 amigos could not give a shit about what is said about them. (and why should they-people only have a problem with them when their bike breaks, but by then the shop has your $500-$600-$700)
The small amount of sales that are not being made because of warnings on here would be miniscule. Most people only become members here after they have bought a bike. Miniriders may need to be careful not too leave itself open to slander accusations from 3 amigos.
Anyway anyone that buys anything off someone calling themselves HONEST IAN deserves a kick up the ass.
BTW I just went into a new shop selling tobacco/foxicos,orions.(great combo-no matter what, we will kill u by cancer or bike falling apart at 65kms/hr). Owner of shop was talking up his bike range(i played along being like a nooby) saying foxicos very reliable,never had a problem(maybe cause shop has only been open like 2 weeks). Also told how his orion 140cc(air cooled) left a race prepped YZ125 for dust on a tight track.( nearly sprayed chocolate milk that I was drinking out my nose).
Anyway point is people will tell you anything if they think you are gullible enough to believe. On my way out of the shop I told him about MSO(he had no idea about them). I then watched as he bought up their website and proceeded to say they looked cheap and flimsy. Also way to expensive apparently. Their are RIP-OFF dickheads everywhere.Cant wait for me new MSO PRO
The small amount of sales that are not being made because of warnings on here would be miniscule. Most people only become members here after they have bought a bike. Miniriders may need to be careful not too leave itself open to slander accusations from 3 amigos.
Anyway anyone that buys anything off someone calling themselves HONEST IAN deserves a kick up the ass.
BTW I just went into a new shop selling tobacco/foxicos,orions.(great combo-no matter what, we will kill u by cancer or bike falling apart at 65kms/hr). Owner of shop was talking up his bike range(i played along being like a nooby) saying foxicos very reliable,never had a problem(maybe cause shop has only been open like 2 weeks). Also told how his orion 140cc(air cooled) left a race prepped YZ125 for dust on a tight track.( nearly sprayed chocolate milk that I was drinking out my nose).
Anyway point is people will tell you anything if they think you are gullible enough to believe. On my way out of the shop I told him about MSO(he had no idea about them). I then watched as he bought up their website and proceeded to say they looked cheap and flimsy. Also way to expensive apparently. Their are RIP-OFF dickheads everywhere.Cant wait for me new MSO PRO
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Hillz
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all cheap china bike break, they should have no warrenty cos they are made to break.....
as for shops stocking parts why would any1 want to hold stock for every minibike when you get nothing but a hard time over price etc
as for shops stocking parts why would any1 want to hold stock for every minibike when you get nothing but a hard time over price etc
The MSO PRO looks very similar to this, no? Only my version has a better oil cooler, an all Alloy Frame, and 15mm axles... and it's the same price... Oh, and the motor is the modified Lifan done by FX Dirtmax with the high compression piston, 138cc, big cam and inner rotor kit. Puts out about 5 HP more than a standard Lifan 125. Nice looking bike that MSO though...
BUT you guys treat your customers like SHIT!!!
MSO are how a business should be run, Id rather pay 5x more for the MSO version than have to deal with wankers like you 3,
You wanna rip people off, place false ads in papers, than thats your business, but dont come on here comparing your versions to a MSO, cause every single person on here knows what MSO are like, and quite frankly you guys are a joke whilst comparing.....
MSO are how a business should be run, Id rather pay 5x more for the MSO version than have to deal with wankers like you 3,
You wanna rip people off, place false ads in papers, than thats your business, but dont come on here comparing your versions to a MSO, cause every single person on here knows what MSO are like, and quite frankly you guys are a joke whilst comparing.....
Sidney
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But we aren't buying from you. So we don't want it
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You guys crack me up. I don't want you as customers, never did, never will. You do bring me a tremendous amount of amusement though. Thankyou. You have fun now on your over priced, under performing MSO. kgo.
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Don't come on this forum then, you've explained your shitty customer service. As you can tell, nearly every single member on here doesn't want to buy from you so I don't see a point of you on here, except for us members to laugh at how bad your business is.
Hillz
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that is a nice bike tho, & i dis like chinas very much
Sidney
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It's so funny how everytime we start getting them fired up they are just like
because they know we are right!
because they know we are right!
Sidney
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Half the shit on this forum gets locked or edit in some way. Just leave it.
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